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Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 1:03 am
by private joker
Barrog from Dublin bet oulart in intermediate, Trim bet Danesfort of kk. Which was an exceptional win. Oulart have slipped back massively. Will do well to stay in tier 1 in wexford.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 12:40 pm
by Bord na Mona man
The is an irony to Meath and Kildare clubs making strides in hurling. For years both these counties have been correctly criticised for underperforming at intercounty football.
With the big populations they have, the big-time Charlie corporate jackasses throwing money around, players all locally based, the constant inward migration of GAA expertise from other counties, they should have been breathing down Dublin's neck all these recent years.
Now they're making strides in hurling, as it turns out.

There are lessons for Offaly too. There is a bigger yield in getting the urban places more productive. The clubs that traditionally produced hurlers in the past that are now dwindling in population and won't be backboning any future success.

The coaching and hurling development work has been strong in the Naas and Naomh Barrog catchment areas for the last few years. I assume the same for Trim. Clearly they didn't sit back and wait for talented 'natural hurlers' to come through.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:21 pm
by Onionbag
Bord na Mona man wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:00 pm Naas are very good and are also producing some really class players. It was always going to be a challenge for Shinrone but such a wide margin is a surprise.
Are Shinrone happy enough with a single county title?
They will have to back it up and not be seen as a flash in the pan. They've good panel in fairness, it will give hope to a lot of teams next year.. The likes of Belmont and Ballinamere will look at what Shinrone did and say why not us

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 6:55 pm
by greenairfield
Ballinamere are mies off where shinrone are just to be clear

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:52 pm
by private joker
Don't think ballinamere are miles off it at all. Year on year seem to be improving. Drew with shinrone last number of years. Wont win a county for a while but I'd say a semi final is within their grasp in the next two to three years.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:08 pm
by Onionbag
private joker wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 7:52 pm Don't think ballinamere are miles off it at all. Year on year seem to be improving. Drew with shinrone last number of years. Wont win a county for a while but I'd say a semi final is within their grasp in the next two to three years.
Agree with you.

People were saying the same about Shinrone last year. Ballinamere have a big contingency of County players too.. With young Ravenhill and Burke now available for senior.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 8:09 pm
by Onionbag
The football is always used as an excuse as to why the hurlers aren't performing but I don't buy that

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:00 pm
by SearingDrive
Onionbag wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 2:21 pm
Bord na Mona man wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:00 pm Naas are very good and are also producing some really class players. It was always going to be a challenge for Shinrone but such a wide margin is a surprise.
Are Shinrone happy enough with a single county title?
They will have to back it up and not be seen as a flash in the pan. They've good panel in fairness, it will give hope to a lot of teams next year.. The likes of Belmont and Ballinamere will look at what Shinrone did and say why not us
Correct. Shinrone will have to retain the title next year. That won’t be easy.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:08 pm
by Onionbag
No it won't. Will be a target now for teams. Everyone ups their game when playing the County Champions.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 9:29 am
by greenairfield
Birr beat Ballinamere by 15 or 16 pts in QF this year. I would say Birr are a bit away from winning a county final so not sure where it leaves B/D

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:44 am
by private joker
That's one game, B/D are clearly on a upwards curve. Compared with the likes of coolderry , who are clearly on a downwards curve. I'd day Birr are not as far off. Huge potential to do something if they can find a way of playing and maybe up or 2 more players.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:28 pm
by pigeon house biffo
I see tipperary have announced their panel for next year

Is their any benefit to naming it so early? Any word on anyone called into the Offaly setup so far or what way its going?

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:50 pm
by private joker
Good for supporters to know.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:55 pm
by bracknaghboy
Onionbag wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:13 pm That's a serious hammering for Shinrone by Naas.

Where is offaly hurling at??

15 Point victory is emphatic.
It's hard to know how much of a barometer the All Club Championships really are.
Remember Offaly clubs contested both the 2012 and 2013 All Ireland hurling finals but our senior county hurlers were already in terminal decline by then.

Re: League & Championship hurling 2022

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:20 am
by Bord na Mona man
bracknaghboy wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 10:55 pm
Onionbag wrote: Sat Nov 12, 2022 4:13 pm That's a serious hammering for Shinrone by Naas.

Where is offaly hurling at??

15 Point victory is emphatic.
It's hard to know how much of a barometer the All Club Championships really are.
Remember Offaly clubs contested both the 2012 and 2013 All Ireland hurling finals but our senior county hurlers were already in terminal decline by then.
At this stage the club performances is becoming less of a bellwether for county level.
Moycullen beat Westport by 17 points on Sunday but I don't see anyone thinking the same fate awaits Mayo next year.
Last year Rynaghs were seconds away from beating Ballyhale. I doubt Offaly hurling overall has regressed that much in 12 months.