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Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:58 pm
by frankthetank
That’s incorrect. If a team uses 20 players in this year’s senior championship 18 of them MUST play senior next year. That gives scope for 2 players to be “regraded”.

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:18 pm
by uibhfhaili72
OK maybe this could be extended to 5 in the interest of players

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:38 pm
by frankthetank
This has been in place for at least 5 years. Why the sudden interest?

It clearly benefits the bigger population bases by the by.

For example telling Lusmagh and Kilcormac/Killoughey you have to name 18 players who can only play at the highest grade is not the same thing!

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:58 pm
by Plain of the Herbs
Frankthetank is right. It wouldn't be unusual for Lusmagh to use just 17 or 18 of 19 Senior players in a year.

I notice most Senior A clubs used three subs last Friday evening. Lusmagh used none.

The old system where seven players were regraded suited the smaller clubs better. I could be wrong, but I suspect the change came in response to Tullamore using 30 players on their Senior hurling team about six years ago.

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:50 pm
by uibhfhaili72
Plain of the Herbs wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:58 pm Frankthetank is right. It wouldn't be unusual for Lusmagh to use just 17 or 18 of 19 Senior players in a year.

I notice most Senior A clubs used three subs last Friday evening. Lusmagh used none.

The old system where seven players were regraded suited the smaller clubs better. I could be wrong, but I suspect the change came in response to Tullamore using 30 players on their Senior hurling team about six years ago.
The sudden interest because it came up in conversation recently I don't hold too much objection to it to be honest but I didn't notice it before but it's obviously topical this year with the K/K situation and it's not passed down from GAA HQ.

Also it has occurred to me as mentioned by POTH that yes although I mentioned K/K previously it is actually the smaller clubs ,who maybe have a few players coming through and potentially a few hangers on in there late 30s who need replacing.

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:06 pm
by frankthetank
Plain of the Herbs wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:58 pm Frankthetank is right. It wouldn't be unusual for Lusmagh to use just 17 or 18 of 19 Senior players in a year.

I notice most Senior A clubs used three subs last Friday evening. Lusmagh used none.

The old system where seven players were regraded suited the smaller clubs better. I could be wrong, but I suspect the change came in response to Tullamore using 30 players on their Senior hurling team about six years ago.
I never knew this POTH. What was the rationale for this do you know?

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 12:45 am
by Plain of the Herbs
The rationale to change the rule, Tank? I don't know, and I only discovered in early 2020 that it had changed. It would presumably have required a motion at Convention.

A few years before the introduction of the split season, there was a plan to commence the Junior championships before the Senior championships began. But that couldn't be done, because it was required to commence the Senior championships first. And I wonder, without the rule change, could Kilcormac-Killoughey Senior Bs have taken the field before the club's Senior As got their campaign underway, as happened last weekend?
frankthetank wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:06 pm
Plain of the Herbs wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:58 pm Frankthetank is right. It wouldn't be unusual for Lusmagh to use just 17 or 18 of 19 Senior players in a year.

I notice most Senior A clubs used three subs last Friday evening. Lusmagh used none.

The old system where seven players were regraded suited the smaller clubs better. I could be wrong, but I suspect the change came in response to Tullamore using 30 players on their Senior hurling team about six years ago.
I never knew this POTH. What was the rationale for this do you know?

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2023 10:16 pm
by frankthetank
I doubt very much under the old rule KK B would have been allowed to hurl prior to KK A.

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2023 12:32 am
by Fairplayalways
wouldnt be massive on championships outside senior A in both codes, but i assume the different grades commence the same time is to prevent senior A going first then the players that would have lined out senior A couldn't go back intermediate or junior thereafter that season..i hope i explained that as clear as possible and maybe its of no relevance to the discussion ..

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:45 am
by chimbonda
This weeks predictions:

KK 2-20 Kinnitty 0-15
Birr 1-18 Tullamore 2-10
Coolderry 1-15 Ballinamere 0-17
Shinrone 3-19 Seir Kieran 2-16

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 2:40 pm
by Fairplayalways
I am going with the following predictions this weekend:

KK 3-20 - Kinnitty 0-12
Birr 2-20 - Tullamore 0-16
Coolderry 1-17 - Ballinamere 0-17
Shinrone 2-18 - Seir Kieran 0-14

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:25 pm
by faithfulfanatic
KK 2-16 - Kinnitty 1-13
Birr 3-16 - Tullamore 1-14
Coolderry 2-12 - Ballinamere 1-17
Shinrone 1-18 - Seir Kieran 0-17

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:28 pm
by Anonymous1
I’ll go with KK, Birr, Ballinamere, Shinrone.

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:51 pm
by faithfulfanatic
Has anyone got a teamsheet from Kilcormac Kinnitty?

Re: Offaly Senior A Hurling Championship 2023

Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:01 pm
by JimBwobb
I do but dunno how to post an image.

When I try I get Image ??