This weeks fixtures......anyone got them?
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This weeks fixtures......anyone got them?
Has anyone got them lads? I'm hearing theres chopping and changing going on already with them. The official GAA website is really poor lately for fixtures and they the ones they have up usually never take place at the time or venue stated. In 2012 is it really that difficult to keep thinngs up to date? We are falling way behind again in this regard lately.
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Wednesday 25th July
Minor Football Championship
Ferbane v Tullamore Ferbane S Fleming 7.30 pm
Edenderry v Clara Edenderry C Costello 7.30 pm
Gracefield v Kilcormac/K Gracefield P Pierce 7.30 pm
Shamrocks v DER Gaels Mucklagh P Jordan 7.30 pm
Ballycumber/Tubber v Rhode Ballycumber C Dwyer 7.30 pm
St Broughans v St Vincents Bracknagh J O Reilly 7.30 pm
Thursday 26th July
Tullamore Court Hotel Senior Football Championship
Tubber v Rhode O C P F Smyth 7.30 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior B Football Championship
Kinnitty v Daingean Kinnitty M Walsh 7.30 pm
Friday 27th July
Tullamore Court Hotel Senior Football Championship
Clara v Erin Rovers Ferbane E Dunne 7.30 pm
Gracefield v St Rynaghs Killeigh M Mahon 7.30 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Intermediate Football championship
Bracknagh v St Brigids Walsh Island C Dwyer 7.30 pm
Birr v Doon Cloghan N Flynn 7.30 pm
Durrow v Kilclonfert Geashill N Cooney 7.30 pm
Clonbullogue v Cappincur Walsh Island P Pierce 7.30 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior A Football Championship
Ballycumber v Gracefield Ballycumber C Dwyer 7.30 pm
Shamrocks v Ferbane Mucklagh P Jordan 7.30 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior C Football championship
Lusmagh v Walsh Island Lusmagh N Flynn 7.30 pm
Sunday 29th July
Tullamore Court Hotel Senior Football Championship
Walsh Island v Ballycumber O C P B Gavin 2.00 pm Linesmen, C Groome, P Gallagher.
Edenderry v Ferbane O C P C Groome 3.30 pm Linesmen, B Gavin, S Fleming.
Tullamore Court Hotel Intermediate Football championship
Rhode v Shannonbridge Killeigh Pat Gallagher 6.00 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior A Football Championship
Killeigh v Ballinagar Killeigh T Anderson 12 noon
Rhode v Edenderry Rhode C Costello 12 noon
Ballycommon v Clara Ballycommon N Cooney 12 noon
Daingean v Kilcormac/K Daingean M Carty 12 noon
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior B Football championship
Tubber v Erin Rovers Tubber J Mc Keown 12 noon
Ballyfore v St Brigids Ballyfore P Gallagher 12 noon
Raheen v Tullamore Geashill C Groome 12 noon
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior C Football championship
Doon v Bracknagh Doon S Fleming 12 noon
Clonbullogue v Shannonbridge Clonbullogue P Pierce 12 noon
Division 4 Hurling League
Kinnitty v Crinkle Kinnitty N Flynn 12 noon
Wednesday 1st August
Tullamore Court Hotel U 21 Football Championship Final
St Michaels v Wheery O C P P Pierce 7.30 pm
Linesmen, D Brazil, P Jordan.
Minor Hurling Championship
St Rynaghs v Na Fianna Banagher M Mahon 7.30 pm
Ballinamere Gaels v CRC Gaels Ballinamere N Cooney 7.30 pm
Seir Kieran v Kinnitty Clareen M Walsh 7.30 pm
Shinrone v Coolderry Shinrone D Cooke 7.30 pm
Kilcormac/K v Tullamore Kilcormac M Kirwan 7.30 pm
Thursday 2nd August
Aidan Bracken Building Design Senior Hurling Championship
Brosna Gaels v Seir Kieran Lusmagh A Ryan 7.30 pm
Tullamore v Birr Kinnitty T Carroll 7.30 pm
St Rynaghs v Drumcullen Kilcormac N Flynn 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Intermediate Hurling Championship
Ballyskenagh v Clara Killurin C Groome 7.30 pm
Friday 3rd August
Aidan Bracken Building Design Intermediate Hurling Championship
St Rynaghs v Killurin Kilcormac N Flynn 7.30 pm
Crinkle v Birr Carraig T Carroll 7.30 pm
Ballinamere v Coolderry Rath M Kirwan 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior A Hurling Championship
Killeigh v Seir Kieran Killeigh N Cooney 7.30 pm
Brosna Gaels v Ballinmere Doon M Mahon 7.30 pm
Saturday 4th August
Tullamore Court Hotel Senior Football Championship
Gracefield v Walsh Island O C P F Smyth 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Intermediate Hurling Championship
Kilcormac/K v Lusmagh Moystown M Mahon 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior A Hurling Championship
Edenderry v St Rynaghs Edenderry C Groome 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior B Hurling Championship
Shamrocks v Killeigh Mucklagh T Anderson 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior B Hurling Championship
Raheen v Kinnitty Geashill N Cooney 12 noon
Sunday 5th August
Aidan Bracken Building Design Senior Hurling Championship
Shamrocks v Kilcormac/K Rath T Carroll 6.00 pm
Coolderry v Kinnitty Rath B Gavin 7.30 pm
Belmont v Shinrone Banagher M Walsh 3.00 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior A Hurling Championship
Drumcullen v Killavilla Rath M Walsh 12 noon
Kilcormac/K v Coolderry Kilcormac/K D Cooke 12 noon
Kinnitty v Shinrone Kinnitty M Walsh 12 noon
Birr v Belmont Birr M Kirwan 12 noon
Minor Football Championship
Ferbane v Tullamore Ferbane S Fleming 7.30 pm
Edenderry v Clara Edenderry C Costello 7.30 pm
Gracefield v Kilcormac/K Gracefield P Pierce 7.30 pm
Shamrocks v DER Gaels Mucklagh P Jordan 7.30 pm
Ballycumber/Tubber v Rhode Ballycumber C Dwyer 7.30 pm
St Broughans v St Vincents Bracknagh J O Reilly 7.30 pm
Thursday 26th July
Tullamore Court Hotel Senior Football Championship
Tubber v Rhode O C P F Smyth 7.30 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior B Football Championship
Kinnitty v Daingean Kinnitty M Walsh 7.30 pm
Friday 27th July
Tullamore Court Hotel Senior Football Championship
Clara v Erin Rovers Ferbane E Dunne 7.30 pm
Gracefield v St Rynaghs Killeigh M Mahon 7.30 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Intermediate Football championship
Bracknagh v St Brigids Walsh Island C Dwyer 7.30 pm
Birr v Doon Cloghan N Flynn 7.30 pm
Durrow v Kilclonfert Geashill N Cooney 7.30 pm
Clonbullogue v Cappincur Walsh Island P Pierce 7.30 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior A Football Championship
Ballycumber v Gracefield Ballycumber C Dwyer 7.30 pm
Shamrocks v Ferbane Mucklagh P Jordan 7.30 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior C Football championship
Lusmagh v Walsh Island Lusmagh N Flynn 7.30 pm
Sunday 29th July
Tullamore Court Hotel Senior Football Championship
Walsh Island v Ballycumber O C P B Gavin 2.00 pm Linesmen, C Groome, P Gallagher.
Edenderry v Ferbane O C P C Groome 3.30 pm Linesmen, B Gavin, S Fleming.
Tullamore Court Hotel Intermediate Football championship
Rhode v Shannonbridge Killeigh Pat Gallagher 6.00 pm
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior A Football Championship
Killeigh v Ballinagar Killeigh T Anderson 12 noon
Rhode v Edenderry Rhode C Costello 12 noon
Ballycommon v Clara Ballycommon N Cooney 12 noon
Daingean v Kilcormac/K Daingean M Carty 12 noon
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior B Football championship
Tubber v Erin Rovers Tubber J Mc Keown 12 noon
Ballyfore v St Brigids Ballyfore P Gallagher 12 noon
Raheen v Tullamore Geashill C Groome 12 noon
Tullamore Court Hotel Junior C Football championship
Doon v Bracknagh Doon S Fleming 12 noon
Clonbullogue v Shannonbridge Clonbullogue P Pierce 12 noon
Division 4 Hurling League
Kinnitty v Crinkle Kinnitty N Flynn 12 noon
Wednesday 1st August
Tullamore Court Hotel U 21 Football Championship Final
St Michaels v Wheery O C P P Pierce 7.30 pm
Linesmen, D Brazil, P Jordan.
Minor Hurling Championship
St Rynaghs v Na Fianna Banagher M Mahon 7.30 pm
Ballinamere Gaels v CRC Gaels Ballinamere N Cooney 7.30 pm
Seir Kieran v Kinnitty Clareen M Walsh 7.30 pm
Shinrone v Coolderry Shinrone D Cooke 7.30 pm
Kilcormac/K v Tullamore Kilcormac M Kirwan 7.30 pm
Thursday 2nd August
Aidan Bracken Building Design Senior Hurling Championship
Brosna Gaels v Seir Kieran Lusmagh A Ryan 7.30 pm
Tullamore v Birr Kinnitty T Carroll 7.30 pm
St Rynaghs v Drumcullen Kilcormac N Flynn 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Intermediate Hurling Championship
Ballyskenagh v Clara Killurin C Groome 7.30 pm
Friday 3rd August
Aidan Bracken Building Design Intermediate Hurling Championship
St Rynaghs v Killurin Kilcormac N Flynn 7.30 pm
Crinkle v Birr Carraig T Carroll 7.30 pm
Ballinamere v Coolderry Rath M Kirwan 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior A Hurling Championship
Killeigh v Seir Kieran Killeigh N Cooney 7.30 pm
Brosna Gaels v Ballinmere Doon M Mahon 7.30 pm
Saturday 4th August
Tullamore Court Hotel Senior Football Championship
Gracefield v Walsh Island O C P F Smyth 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Intermediate Hurling Championship
Kilcormac/K v Lusmagh Moystown M Mahon 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior A Hurling Championship
Edenderry v St Rynaghs Edenderry C Groome 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior B Hurling Championship
Shamrocks v Killeigh Mucklagh T Anderson 7.30 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior B Hurling Championship
Raheen v Kinnitty Geashill N Cooney 12 noon
Sunday 5th August
Aidan Bracken Building Design Senior Hurling Championship
Shamrocks v Kilcormac/K Rath T Carroll 6.00 pm
Coolderry v Kinnitty Rath B Gavin 7.30 pm
Belmont v Shinrone Banagher M Walsh 3.00 pm
Aidan Bracken Building Design Junior A Hurling Championship
Drumcullen v Killavilla Rath M Walsh 12 noon
Kilcormac/K v Coolderry Kilcormac/K D Cooke 12 noon
Kinnitty v Shinrone Kinnitty M Walsh 12 noon
Birr v Belmont Birr M Kirwan 12 noon
Re: This weeks fixtures......anyone got them?
Seriously, can the Offaly County Board not get fixtures right?
2 intermediate matches on for the same time in Walsh Island Friday night. This happened in the last round when there was 3 matches fixed for tuesday night in Killeigh. Only one of the teams copped onto it the week before
2 intermediate matches on for the same time in Walsh Island Friday night. This happened in the last round when there was 3 matches fixed for tuesday night in Killeigh. Only one of the teams copped onto it the week before
Twice we had the chance,but well get one more
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Well spotted, Man. And at the same time Walsh Island Juniors are travelling to play Lusmagh. There'll be no-one around to turn on the hot water for the four teams competing at WI.
theman wrote:Seriously, can the Offaly County Board not get fixtures right?
2 intermediate matches on for the same time in Walsh Island Friday night. This happened in the last round when there was 3 matches fixed for tuesday night in Killeigh. Only one of the teams copped onto it the week before
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Bracknagh game now in Ballyfore Friday 7.30
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I think we need to have a look at the format of the club championships here in Offaly. Looking at the Senior, Intermediate & Junior football championships I just see way too many games, each lacking the out & out intensity of a good old-fashioned championship match. For example the groups in the Junior Championship consist of 7 teams in each (as does one of the groups in the Intermediate championship). This is 6 championship matches for each team with the likelihood being that a team could realistically afford to lose 3 games and still make it through to the Quarter-finals.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not calling for a return to straight knockout football. I think teams should be given a 2nd chance at least. The back-door system is used in many counties around the country and in many cases, it seems to work. We all want a bit more football, but I’m of the opinion that we are losing the real bite to our championship games, until the knockout stages anyway, and its something we need to get back. More competitiveness in our local championship could lead to greater competition for places on the county team and hopefully help lead to a change in fortunes at intercounty level. A reduced number of championship games may also lead to a greater emphasis being put on the league in the county.
While I’m sure there are both merits & disadvantages to a change in championship format, and these have been discussed countless times within the county since we abandoned the knockout format years ago, I still feel that an alternative to the current system is needed, perhaps even one that hasn’t been mentioned yet.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not calling for a return to straight knockout football. I think teams should be given a 2nd chance at least. The back-door system is used in many counties around the country and in many cases, it seems to work. We all want a bit more football, but I’m of the opinion that we are losing the real bite to our championship games, until the knockout stages anyway, and its something we need to get back. More competitiveness in our local championship could lead to greater competition for places on the county team and hopefully help lead to a change in fortunes at intercounty level. A reduced number of championship games may also lead to a greater emphasis being put on the league in the county.
While I’m sure there are both merits & disadvantages to a change in championship format, and these have been discussed countless times within the county since we abandoned the knockout format years ago, I still feel that an alternative to the current system is needed, perhaps even one that hasn’t been mentioned yet.
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Both the Hurling and Football club championships are a joke.... Teams are only going through the motions at the moment, no intensity whatsoever.... 4 teams coming out of a group of 6 and sometimes 4 coming out of a 5 team group. Why not go back to 3 goups of 4? 2 strong groups and one so called weak group at least that way we have quality matches. There was a round of hurling championship matches last weekend and not one result made a whole lot of difference, they might as well have been league games. We're nearly in August and clubs are only starting to get going now, this is having an affect on our county teams.
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The current hurling chamionship format is far from ideal. With four teams coming out of a six team group there's way too many games to be played just to eliminate four teams.
Matches lack intensity as teams know that 2 wins probably see them through to the knock-out stages and every team I presume is of the opinion then once you avoid Coolderry you could easily make the county final.
My two proposals would be:
A) Two groups of six with the top 3 emerging. Top team in each group into semi and two quarter finals with remaining four teams. 2nd plays 3rd from one group and vice versa.
(Just to spice it up I would love to see teams being rewarded for higher placed finishes in their groups. For example in the quarters in above proposal the 2nd place team in each group gets home advantage, (or if not feasible, the venue of their choice) and in the semis the teams who won the groups have the same privilige) Why not reward teams who did well in the group stage? And just because the GAA has always used neutral venues doesn't mean it always has to be the way.
B) Three groups of four with top two emerging. The two group winners with the best record in their groups go direct to semis and the remaining four teams play off in the two quarters. Home and Away arrangements as outlined above if desired.
Matches lack intensity as teams know that 2 wins probably see them through to the knock-out stages and every team I presume is of the opinion then once you avoid Coolderry you could easily make the county final.
My two proposals would be:
A) Two groups of six with the top 3 emerging. Top team in each group into semi and two quarter finals with remaining four teams. 2nd plays 3rd from one group and vice versa.
(Just to spice it up I would love to see teams being rewarded for higher placed finishes in their groups. For example in the quarters in above proposal the 2nd place team in each group gets home advantage, (or if not feasible, the venue of their choice) and in the semis the teams who won the groups have the same privilige) Why not reward teams who did well in the group stage? And just because the GAA has always used neutral venues doesn't mean it always has to be the way.
B) Three groups of four with top two emerging. The two group winners with the best record in their groups go direct to semis and the remaining four teams play off in the two quarters. Home and Away arrangements as outlined above if desired.
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rubbish lads.
Ask any player what they want and it is more games.
At present the system guarantees five games, the old one gave only three
I remember seeing shamrocks lose a game on the first Sunday in may a few years back. Their season was over as they still had to face birr after that in a four team group.
Under the present system all clubs playing stiill have a chance of making the knockouts after three rounds. The longer we have teams playing over the summer the better. There is far too much training in the gaa and not enough games.
It is like the point Ollie baker made about the county set up, saying February was far too long a time to be waiting for offalyto be hurling again
Ask any player what they want and it is more games.
At present the system guarantees five games, the old one gave only three
I remember seeing shamrocks lose a game on the first Sunday in may a few years back. Their season was over as they still had to face birr after that in a four team group.
Under the present system all clubs playing stiill have a chance of making the knockouts after three rounds. The longer we have teams playing over the summer the better. There is far too much training in the gaa and not enough games.
It is like the point Ollie baker made about the county set up, saying February was far too long a time to be waiting for offalyto be hurling again
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Five games is not the problem - the problem is that many of them are meaningless. Basically you can finish in the top four, or the bottom two, and once you're definitely going to land in one of those two sectors, you've no incentive to keep trying. Group two of the SHC is more or less done and dusted already after only two rounds. Kinnittyman's system looks bang on to me, there's an incentive for every spot.joe bloggs wrote:rubbish lads.
Ask any player what they want and it is more games.
At present the system guarantees five games, the old one gave only three
I remember seeing shamrocks lose a game on the first Sunday in may a few years back. Their season was over as they still had to face birr after that in a four team group.
Under the present system all clubs playing stiill have a chance of making the knockouts after three rounds. The longer we have teams playing over the summer the better. There is far too much training in the gaa and not enough games.
It is like the point Ollie baker made about the county set up, saying February was far too long a time to be waiting for offalyto be hurling again
We're not trying to reduce games here, but all too often there have been cases where these games are basically just league matches.
You also have situations like a few years ago, where in the last round of games in the SFC, Clara were down to play St Brigids and Ferbane were down to play Gracefield. Clara were already going to top the group and avoid Rhode, and it was only because the club upheld sporting integrity that they played the game. Practically, they would have been much better advised to concede a walkover and play a challenge match against a good side behind closed doors rather than play a match against a Brigids team fighting for their lives, where injuries were a real possibility. I know that could happen in any system, but surely to God we should be looking to try and minimise the likelihood, because one of these days a manager will get the backing of his club and in that situation they will concede a walkover because it'll be in their own interests.
Overall, it's just annoying that we seem to do things halfways all the time. You have a system in Kilkenny where teams play five round robin games, then everyone qualifies for a straight knockout. For whatever reason, that works down there, partially due to the absence of football so players don't have that ,any games of consequence. In Westmeath, they have to balance some dual clubs so they have six team groups, with more or less Kinnittyman's system, admittedly without the home advantage thing.
We started with the Kilkenny system, then Tullamore win the championship without winning a group game and everyone says it's wrong - so we end up with this miserable, half way to nowhere compromise that really doesn't do what it's supposed to.
Kevin Egan. Signed out of respect for players and all involved with Offaly.
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Yea, but by definition, there are going to be a certain number of meaningless matches no matter how many come out of the group, whether it's two, three, four, five or six. I don't see a situation where every game is going to define every club's year.
The problem of having quarter-finals, while at the same time giving teams a bye into the semi-final (whether by having two or three groups) is that the team(s) who go straight into the semi-finals are going to go four weeks without a game. That's not fair either. And if there happen to be an odd number of teams in a group and the group-topper goes straight to the semi-final they could go six weeks without a match.
Everyone wants a situation where every game is win-or-bust, but the reality is you can only get knocked out once a year.
The problem of having quarter-finals, while at the same time giving teams a bye into the semi-final (whether by having two or three groups) is that the team(s) who go straight into the semi-finals are going to go four weeks without a game. That's not fair either. And if there happen to be an odd number of teams in a group and the group-topper goes straight to the semi-final they could go six weeks without a match.
Everyone wants a situation where every game is win-or-bust, but the reality is you can only get knocked out once a year.
Lone Shark wrote:Five games is not the problem - the problem is that many of them are meaningless. Basically you can finish in the top four, or the bottom two, and once you're definitely going to land in one of those two sectors, you've no incentive to keep trying. Group two of the SHC is more or less done and dusted already after only two rounds. Kinnittyman's system looks bang on to me, there's an incentive for every spot.
Pat Donegan. Signed out of respect for players and all involved with Offaly.
"Offaly's hurling is exact and abrasive: full of assurance on the ball, devoid of fumbling and slicing and sod-busting". Kevin Cashman RIP (September 1994).
"Offaly's hurling is exact and abrasive: full of assurance on the ball, devoid of fumbling and slicing and sod-busting". Kevin Cashman RIP (September 1994).