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Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:06 pm

Fairplayalways wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:18 pm

frankthetank wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 2:54 pm If a club X’s 1st team is incapable of beating Club Y’s 2nd team what business have they hurling Club Y’s 1st team?

Therefore a grade below Senior for clubs made of 1st teams only is not feasible.

For example Drumcullen lost to Coolderry’s 2nd team in the Intermediate Championship. Do you think Drumcullen should be in a higher grade just because it’s their first team? That’s not how meritocracy works.

Your missing my point, my point is Drumcullen should not be playing Coolderrys second team in Drumcullens top tier which is as of now intermediate level, would it not be better leave Drumcullen with their own level of teams like C&R and other such teams, the winners (or both finalists) go up a tier promoted, one as intermediate champions the other just promoted for reaching final..other side then is the two bottom teams above them in Senior B replace them at intermediate next year..this gives these now less successful teams their crack at Senior B and who knows senior A the following year...only problem in Offaly is would there be enough teams to segragate it in that way that you would only have your Drumcullens and C&Rs etc competing for the grade they are in and you wouldnt have the big Senior teams lower tiers in them competitions..if the promoted team (or teams) get relegated again the following year so be it, saying if they cant beat team Xs B team is not a good enough reason to allow them win their own championship playing clubs and teams of their own pedigree..not playing strong second teams of senior A clubs who will always have excess good talent to stock their second team etc..

So where is Coolderrys second team supposed to play ?? You are talking shite !! They championship’s are fine the way they are. Why complicate things ??

Fairplayalways wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:29 pm

Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:06 pm

Fairplayalways wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:18 pm
Your missing my point, my point is Drumcullen should not be playing Coolderrys second team in Drumcullens top tier which is as of now intermediate level, would it not be better leave Drumcullen with their own level of teams like C&R and other such teams, the winners (or both finalists) go up a tier promoted, one as intermediate champions the other just promoted for reaching final..other side then is the two bottom teams above them in Senior B replace them at intermediate next year..this gives these now less successful teams their crack at Senior B and who knows senior A the following year...only problem in Offaly is would there be enough teams to segragate it in that way that you would only have your Drumcullens and C&Rs etc competing for the grade they are in and you wouldnt have the big Senior teams lower tiers in them competitions..if the promoted team (or teams) get relegated again the following year so be it, saying if they cant beat team Xs B team is not a good enough reason to allow them win their own championship playing clubs and teams of their own pedigree..not playing strong second teams of senior A clubs who will always have excess good talent to stock their second team etc..

So where is Coolderrys second team supposed to play ?? You are talking shite !! They championship’s are fine the way they are. Why complicate things ??

Firstly they play what ever level they are at..my original post covered all that scenario..secondly its obviuos its an 'anorak' ime dealing with in that your happy with it as it is s thats all ok..ime talking shite to you and all other 'anoraks' so you can politely take a hike...saying someone is talking shite in a sober debate is the bullys way of dismissal..so if you dont concur fine but tough, stay out of it..wont waste my time reading your reply as no doubt your used to getting the last say in everything in life..attack if people differ and kill the risk of debate..Good luck.

Fairplayalways wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:29 pm

Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:06 pm

Fairplayalways wrote: ↑Fri Aug 25, 2023 10:18 pm
Your missing my point, my point is Drumcullen should not be playing Coolderrys second team in Drumcullens top tier which is as of now intermediate level, would it not be better leave Drumcullen with their own level of teams like C&R and other such teams, the winners (or both finalists) go up a tier promoted, one as intermediate champions the other just promoted for reaching final..other side then is the two bottom teams above them in Senior B replace them at intermediate next year..this gives these now less successful teams their crack at Senior B and who knows senior A the following year...only problem in Offaly is would there be enough teams to segragate it in that way that you would only have your Drumcullens and C&Rs etc competing for the grade they are in and you wouldnt have the big Senior teams lower tiers in them competitions..if the promoted team (or teams) get relegated again the following year so be it, saying if they cant beat team Xs B team is not a good enough reason to allow them win their own championship playing clubs and teams of their own pedigree..not playing strong second teams of senior A clubs who will always have excess good talent to stock their second team etc..

So where is Coolderrys second team supposed to play ?? You are talking shite !! They championship’s are fine the way they are. Why complicate things ??

Firstly its obviuos its an 'anorak' ime dealing with in that your happy with it as it is s thats all ok..ime talking shite to a bollox like you and all other 'anoraks' so you can politely take a hike...saying someone is talking shite in a sober debate is the bullys way of dismissal..so if you dont concur tough, stay out of it..wont waste my time reading your reply as no doubt your used to getting the last say in everything in life..attack if people differ and kill the risk of debate..Good luck.

faithfulfanatic wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:42 pm

Fairplayalways wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 2:29 pm

Dodge83 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:06 pm

So where is Coolderrys second team supposed to play ?? You are talking shite !! They championship’s are fine the way they are. Why complicate things ??

Firstly its obviuos its an 'anorak' ime dealing with in that your happy with it as it is s thats all ok..ime talking shite to a bollox like you and all other 'anoraks' so you can politely take a hike...saying someone is talking shite in a sober debate is the bullys way of dismissal..so if you dont concur tough, stay out of it..wont waste my time reading your reply as no doubt your used to getting the last say in everything in life..attack if people differ and kill the risk of debate..Good luck.

Fairplayalways, you say that Dodge kills the risk of debate and just start throwing insults.

Yet you haven’t presented any actual argument as to what removing second teams from the championships actually accomplishes?

greenairfield wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:28 pm Should be only 8 teams in senior A.
And go back to intermediate and junior A scrap senior B.
It would be alot more competitive as it was a few years ago.

greenairfield wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:28 pm Should be only 8 teams in senior A.
And go back to intermediate and junior A scrap senior B.
It would be alot more competitive as it was a few years ago.

kingscounty wrote: ↑Sun Aug 27, 2023 10:50 pm

greenairfield wrote: ↑Sat Aug 26, 2023 1:28 pm Should be only 8 teams in senior A.
And go back to intermediate and junior A scrap senior B.
It would be alot more competitive as it was a few years ago.

Agree with this,