LooseCannon wrote:U20 draw at CCC tonight.
Prem A St Vincents v Gracefield
Prem B St Michael's v Kilcormac/ Killoughey
Round 1
St Manchan Gaels v Shamrocks,
Prem B winners v St Rynagh's,
Prem A winners v Tullamore,
St Broughan's v Na Fianna
St Michaels are Rhode, Brigids, Clonmore, aren’t they?
St Manchan’s are Lemonaghon+Tubber, aren’t they?
St Rynaghs: weren’t they Shannon Gaels with Shannonbridge+Lusmagh? What happened there, or was a mistake made?
Anyone know when the rest of the Draw is made?
Durrow, Ferbane, St Patrick’s yet to be drawn.
the smallest pick by population would have been that of Wheery
True Red wrote:'the smallest pick by population would have been that of Wheery
We've had this conversation beforebut I stress again that the above nugget is not relevant. Census population doesn't come into it if you have a core group of 30 lads that have been together since childhood.
Lone Shark wrote:True Red wrote:'the smallest pick by population would have been that of Wheery
We've had this conversation beforebut I stress again that the above nugget is not relevant. Census population doesn't come into it if you have a core group of 30 lads that have been together since childhood.
We have, and to be fair, I think that we're not as far apart in views as all that.
I completely take the point that it's not as simple as a linear relationship between population and playing numbers, particularly when the "commuter town" factor comes into play, since these people will by nature, be far less interested in any form of activity in their local community.
I don't agree that things like drink, work, relationships or even rugby are unique to urban towns in Ireland, and I certainly don't buy into the premise that some people are stating, which is that since the Ferbane/Belmont minor club has done an exceptional job of keeping over 90% of the players in this age bracket involved in football all up along, it's therefore logical that Shannonbridge should then have been made to send their players to either St. Manchan's (which is already a fairly big gathering) or even further afield to somewhere like Kilcormac-Killoughey or Shamrocks.
(As an aside, the people who think that Shannonbridge shouldn't have been allowed to play with Ferbane - who do ye think they should have been sent to???)
As an adult club, Ferbane didn't ask for the Shannonbridge players to be brought in, but they did discuss the matter, and vote on it. And to be fair, when you consider that the history of Shannonbridge players hurling with Belmont goes back over a century, that these lads have played together all the way up along the line, that they go to school together, that there is a relationship there up along the minor grades, and above all, that this group didn't win a championship (while playing together as well) at U14 in 2012, at U16 in 2014, or at minor two years ago, then the only realistic option for the club was to vote to accommodate them.
LooseCannon wrote:They should be with Rynaghs (a struggling club at adult level) (the Banagher end appear to have zero interest)
Go way with the notion of Shamrocks or KK (they might as well play with Pearses or Clann in Roscommon)
St Manchans is a brutal arrangement. Should be DER Gaels and Ballycumber/Tubber
Also a quick correction, St Rynaghs did field at u20 level this year. They were obliterated by KK, who in turn were beaten by double scores v Clara, who were well beaten by Wheery.
LooseCannon wrote:I see that “Wheery” won by 12 points. Can’t see that arrangement happening next year.
frankthetank wrote:Big difference:
St. Michael's is all the one parish
Edenderry / Ballyfore is all the one parish
Tullamore / Durrow is all the one parish
frankthetank wrote:Big difference:
St. Michael's is all the one parish
Edenderry / Ballyfore is all the one parish
Tullamore / Durrow is all the one parish
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