Offaly Hurling Championships 2015

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Re: Offaly Hurling Championships 2015

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jimbob
My point was that it is possible to pick 15 guys with proper training could have potental as a decent team even if B Carroll S Dooley J Bergin and D Currams were gone.
we could have a team like this in 3 years
J Demsey
p rigney
d kelliher
s gardner
s coughlan
d shortt
p camon
cdoughan
c kiely
e nolan
c mahon
s kinsella
s quirke
c egan
e cahail

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Sharp Eye wrote:
Toxicity234 wrote:
Sharp Eye wrote: Kilcormac/Killoughey gave a minimal contribution to Offaly in 2015. Don't think that Coolderry will offer much more to Offaly in 2016. St Rynaghs & Birr have the more promising younger hurlers.
Can't Agree with this.
Kilcormac Killoughey lads were willing to commit. Some weren't ask. Kevin Gorgan. Peter Healion, Brian Leonard and others. Some were in and overlooked. Ger Healion, When Rory Hanniffy with a broken Knee was selected ahead of him. D. Kilmartin picked and drop at the dropped at the 1st chance, Slevin was played at no 12, Midfield and has only played no 10 twice in the 3 years he was in the squad. Currams has played a only full forward when Offaly have played 5 forwards.
There more with Con Mahon told to choose between his education or hurling.

Now Coolderry have been treated just as bad. The Brady's were been blamed for game we lost when they were the one keep us in the the game with there fight and hard work. Joe Brady was moved to the forwards when Offaly management didn't have the experience to develop a game plan to get the best out of him at centre back.
Its the most disappointing point in Offaly hurling that we had Joe Brady and we never used him in his best position.
Kevin Connolly was played as a sweeper, Fucking hell. a Sweeper. David King as a corner back when he has been the most improved midfielder over the last few years.

These two clubs have lots to offer to Offaly hurling over the next 6 years but over the last 6 years these two club have been outstanding for Offaly Hurling. But they have been under used at intercounty level. while the players from other clubs that haven't come near winning a county title have been getting on the team ahead of them . The likes of David King, Kevin Connolly, C Molloy, C Kiely and Con Mahon all have a huge amount to offer to the county over the next 5 years. Kilcormac Killoughey won the U21 this year and the Minor last year and there a lot more in the two clubs that have build a successful mentally at club level.

The 3 players in Rynagh's i love to see use by the county over the next year. Shortt need games at centre back he has the potential to be a excellent centre back.
Dolan is a great war horse but He has lots to learn and Stephen Wynne need game in a half forward line he has been outstanding over the last 2 years he is able to pick off points from out the field and has the ability to get back the field to help the midfield and defense. he was bloody wasted at corner back.
Jesus we left Stephen Egan and Chris McDonnell on the bench and put King and Wynne in ahead of them. E Nolan and D Currams started in midfield ahead of King in the Clare match.
But saying that. Rynagh's need to earn that county title. They need to get the performance level wright on the big day and while they have load of potential within that squad. Potential is nothing if you don't deliver.

If you want Kilcormac Killoughey and Coolderry to contribute more to Offaly Hurling them, you would have to pick the players, given them a chance to develop and treated them correctly.
This hasn't been done with players from these two clubs over the last 7 or 8 years when they be the power house of Offaly hurling.
If and when Rynagh's take the throne hopefully there players will be given the chance to lead at inter county level the way Coolderry and Kilcormac Killoughey weren't.
The facts speak for themselves: Kilcormac/Killoughey as County Champions provided minimal leadership & support as members of the Offaly Senior Hurling Team in 2015. Hope Coolderry will give a much greater contribution in 2016, but I have serious doubts.
Did many from Coolderry join the Offaly Senior Hurling Panel this year????

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tox i think s connoly d king and c molloy are with offaly this year . k connolly couldnt commit this year i think and neither could c parlon and b carroll retired .

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S connolly is the only man on the panel.

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greenairfield wrote:S connolly is the only man on the panel.
Has Winning the Offaly Senior Hurling Club championship become more important to the players from our best clubs than playing for Offaly at Senior Inter-County level???

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Looks like it

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Re: Offaly Hurling Championships 2015

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lads that not fair, all those lads would love to hurl for offaly but work or exam are mostly to blame . Both are more important than hurling .

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sam88885a wrote:lads that not fair, all those lads would love to hurl for offaly but work or exam are mostly to blame . Both are more important than hurling .
How can the players from our lesser clubs make themselves available??? Are they not working or in college????

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Re: Offaly Hurling Championships 2015

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Sharp Eye wrote:
greenairfield wrote:S connolly is the only man on the panel.
Has Winning the Offaly Senior Hurling Club championship become more important to the players from our best clubs than playing for Offaly at Senior Inter-County level???
David king in college in Nottingham until April, Cathal parlon out till summer with cruciate injury, he got PLAYING for Offaly last year, and who is currently in America working. Kevin Connolly teaching in cork and would take over 2 hours to get up to train twice a week , Conor Molloy only 18 and with the county minors.
So sharp eye if you think that any these lads aren't interested in playing for Offaly then you are completely misguided.

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tacmot wrote:
Sharp Eye wrote:
greenairfield wrote:S connolly is the only man on the panel.
Has Winning the Offaly Senior Hurling Club championship become more important to the players from our best clubs than playing for Offaly at Senior Inter-County level???
David king in college in Nottingham until April, Cathal parlon out till summer with cruciate injury, he got PLAYING for Offaly last year, and who is currently in America working. Kevin Connolly teaching in cork and would take over 2 hours to get up to train twice a week , Conor Molloy only 18 and with the county minors.
So sharp eye if you think that any these lads aren't interested in playing for Offaly then you are completely misguided.
Coolderry seem to have just one player on the Offaly senior panel this year. Kilcormac/Killoughey had very few last year. They are two of the best club teams in Leinster. The Offaly Senior Hurling championship is hard won. I ask the question has winning the Offaly Club Title become the priority for the players from our best clubs or is it just a coincidence that so many players from our best clubs are not available, when the vast majority of players from all our remaining clubs have made themselves available. Remember "If you want to, you will find a way, If you do not want to you will find an excuse".

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Are you seriously suggesting that a chap who is in college in Nottingham (that's in England, by the way, you won't have heard of it), another who is abroad (and is recovering from a serious knee injury) and another who is working in Cork, are making excuses? Shur why don't you throw in Brian Carroll and the two Bradys while you're at it. Them with 300 Offaly appearances between them. Excuses. Come to think of it, the likes of you should be thrown to the two Bradys and left to fend for yourself.
Pat Donegan. Signed out of respect for players and all involved with Offaly.

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Sharp eye I could give you a list of players from other lesser clubs who are not going in with the team cos of commitment so your point infact is wrong.

S Gardner
S Coughlan
M Cleary
B Harding
D Hayden
S Wynne
T Spain
T Carroll

There is a few I am sure there is another 10 also.

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Greenairfield,

Do you have any idea what you just said about those hurlers you've just named?

I'd take down that list of names pretty quickly before you get yourself and this site into serious bother.

And since when did Birr and St Rynaghs become lesser clubs?

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Re: Offaly Hurling Championships 2015

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greenairfield wrote:Sharp eye I could give you a list of players from other lesser clubs who are not going in with the team cos of commitment so your point infact is wrong.

S Gardner
S Coughlan
M Cleary
B Harding
D Hayden
S Wynne
T Spain
T Carroll

There is a few I am sure there is another 10 also.
I think some of the above players have made themselves available. Are you sure that all of the above mentioned players were actually asked on to the panel?

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Re: Offaly Hurling Championships 2015

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its a huge commitment to be an inter county player,people on here giving it large about lads not hurling for Offaly because they want to make a future for themselves..ye really need to take time out and think,some lads have not been called in some have opted out for there own reasons because they can't commit that's there choice..as far as I know cathal Parlon has effectively retired he has had serious knee injuries..I think we should be supporting whoever is with the county panel and whoever joins it but don't question lads for having to earn a living

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