na fianna hurling

[joe bloggs]

Just to say well done on qualifying for the u16 final. This combined with reaching the u14 Semi shows there must be good work going on there at the moment. Keep it up lads as we are picking from a very small pool in the county as we all know, so if Na Fianna emerge as a new power it will be a major benefit to our county teams, and to your own adult teams in the future.

[esb_lad]

Keep it up lads as we are picking from a very small pool in the county as we all know, so if Na Fianna emerge as a new power it will be a major benefit to our county teams, and to your own adult teams in the future.

A very small pool? Isn't Killeigh parish one of the largest parishes in the country? Not taking from the great work going on there of course

[joe bloggs]

I said that the county has a small pool to pick from, not na fianna

[Ahlethimoutwithit]

Hope you read the meters more accurately ESB lad!!

[Killeighman]

These lads need to be kept together into adult grades if they have any chance to succeed playing at county level. As it stands once they finish minor they go to playing junior and intermediate in killurins case. Playing junior wont help anyone to improve. If the parish made a senior or intermediate team they would have a great chance to win silverwear and bring the players through to the highest level. They are a good group of players with the right men over them to win county championships

[SearingDrive]

These lads need to be kept together into adult grades if they have any chance to succeed playing at county level. As it stands once they finish minor they go to playing junior and intermediate in killurins case. Playing junior wont help anyone to improve. If the parish made a senior or intermediate team they would have a great chance to win silverwear and bring the players through to the highest level. They are a good group of players with the right men over them to win county championships

Though not involved with the underage structure in Killeigh parish, well done to the team management.
Killeigh may be a large parish, but traditionally it was half football,-Geashill, Cloneygowan areas, and hurling in the Killeigh, Killurin areas. Killeigh and Raheen now field junior teams, in addition to Killeighman's previous comment.
This makes the progress achieved, all the more praiseworthy. If one parish team eventually emerges from this squad, then hurling in Offaly will improve.

[Ahlethimoutwithit]

"If the parish made a senior or intermediate team"

First of all , if it were that simple! Just make a Senior team.

1) You cant field an Intermediate amalgamtion without disbanding the clubs, (ie clubs cant enter championship individually), all teams at all grades in the parih must be amalgamated
2)Senior team,means one current senior team will be relegated

I would like to see Senior teams coming from Killeigh Parish, Daingean Parish, Broughans (even put in a South Offaly senior football team combining Birr/Rynaghs/Lusmagh/Drumcullen). But its not that simple, the complexity of overlaying a Senior team against the backdrop of 4 club teams generates a lot of issues.
Take fixtures, Na Fianna Senior team, (if clubs stay in existence), cant play in the league! So must rely on challenge games for preparation. Clubs would insist on having some access to players so this would cause issues as to when the team would train. Could be overcome, but you have the added complexity of football!!
Then come championship, Na Fianna are playing Rhode in first round, on a Friday night, but Killeigh are fixed for the Saturday evening. Clubs lose a player to injury or lads run out of steam and Killeigh lose a crucial game to get to q final, (after Senior team has been hammered). Straight aay Killeigh have the knives out, and worse still , Tubber beat Na Fianna by a point in the last group game and Na Fianna are relegated. Is that the end of the project in year one?
Ps Dont tell me the county board will take into account the Senior team and not have them on on the same weekend as the clubs.

On the other hand, everyine in Killeigh parish decides that the clubs take a 5 year sabbaticcal and they give leave to amalgamate at all grade to form an Intermediate team, Junior A, B, C teams, win Intermediate championship and build towards Senior, all funds go towards development and the aim of having successful Senior team and feeder teams for this.
At the end of 5 years , success is judged on number of players playing, grades the teams are playing in, etc.

These teams can enter the leagues, and a decent trainer would take on the senior team as he would have full access to his players, (bar hurling committments).

So before ye all jump in saying simple, option 2 amalgamate! You must understand the power and history, pride of an area having their own club. If you dont understand this them you are better off not expressing an opinion on these matters.
But if handled properly amalgamations are the way forward for development, but not by simply "making a Senior team", and dont just change make to "form"!!

[Ahlethimoutwithit]

Sorry, should clarify, was talkin about a Senior club team as opposed to hurling, So the example should read "never mind taking into account hurling" as opposed to "football"

[westender]

"If the parish made a senior or intermediate team"

First of all , if it were that simple! Just make a Senior team.

1) You cant field an Intermediate amalgamtion without disbanding the clubs, (ie clubs cant enter championship individually), all teams at all grades in the parih must be amalgamated
2)Senior team,means one current senior team will be relegated

I would like to see Senior teams coming from Killeigh Parish, Daingean Parish, Broughans (even put in a South Offaly senior football team combining Birr/Rynaghs/Lusmagh/Drumcullen). But its not that simple, the complexity of overlaying a Senior team against the backdrop of 4 club teams generates a lot of issues.
Take fixtures, Na Fianna Senior team, (if clubs stay in existence), cant play in the league! So must rely on challenge games for preparation. Clubs would insist on having some access to players so this would cause issues as to when the team would train. Could be overcome, but you have the added complexity of football!!
Then come championship, Na Fianna are playing Rhode in first round, on a Friday night, but Killeigh are fixed for the Saturday evening. Clubs lose a player to injury or lads run out of steam and Killeigh lose a crucial game to get to q final, (after Senior team has been hammered). Straight aay Killeigh have the knives out, and worse still , Tubber beat Na Fianna by a point in the last group game and Na Fianna are relegated. Is that the end of the project in year one?
Ps Dont tell me the county board will take into account the Senior team and not have them on on the same weekend as the clubs.

On the other hand, everyine in Killeigh parish decides that the clubs take a 5 year sabbaticcal and they give leave to amalgamate at all grade to form an Intermediate team, Junior A, B, C teams, win Intermediate championship and build towards Senior, all funds go towards development and the aim of having successful Senior team and feeder teams for this.
At the end of 5 years , success is judged on number of players playing, grades the teams are playing in, etc.

These teams can enter the leagues, and a decent trainer would take on the senior team as he would have full access to his players, (bar hurling committments).

So before ye all jump in saying simple, option 2 amalgamate! You must understand the power and history, pride of an area having their own club. If you dont understand this them you are better off not expressing an opinion on these matters.
But if handled properly amalgamations are the way forward for development, but not by simply "making a Senior team", and dont just change make to "form"!!

There is some merit in having parish teams as in cork, you have an Divisional team such as Duhollow ( which includes teams such as Kanturk, Millstreet, and Newmarket) who amalagamate for senior thus giving these lads a better chance to get picked senior intercounty which they might not if playing at junior level.The division selects football and hurling teams from the adult teams playing at junior level or county intermediate level, and these then compete for the Cork Senior Football Championship and Cork Senior Hurling Championship football.
I Know people will give out but for the good of Offaly Football /Hurling, playing senior can bring on these players close to the level required to compete as intercounty level.
These players, No doubt in my mind will still give to there local club, but the chance to play at senior level would benefit both the club and county teams.

[joe bloggs]

Congratulations to Na Fianna who defeated Coolderry to win the U16 A final today. Looking forward to seeing some of your players lining out with the Offaly Minors in the next few years.

[Offaly 1992]

A huge congratulations has to go out to Na Fianna on winning the u16 county final today. It just goes to show you what can be achieved by hard work and effort over a number of years. Anybody who witnessed the final will know the level of skill was as high as witnessed in any county. From Na Fianna the stand out players were Dylan Hyland, Kevin Kinahan,Liam Langton, and Conor Langton. Hyland looked assured at all times in the full back line especially when the chips were dow in the second half. Kinahan at half back was immense under the high ball,was strong in the tackle, and led by example to inspire his team mates around him. At the edge of the square Conor Langton was very skillful,scoring 5 points from play at crucial stages and proved to be an excellent target man under the high ball. Not to mention scoring an unbelievable point in the opening stages of the first half. The man of the match though and in my opinion one of the greatest prospects in Offaly hurling at any age group and any time period was Liam Langton. The range of skills on show by Langton was a joy to behold,his striking of the ball on his right and left was fluid and flawless. Some of the scores taken were of the highest quality I have seen in any county and at any level. He showed maturity above his years,and my God what a prospect he is for Offaly hurling. The future of Offaly hurling is very safe in the hands of these players. If a proper system was to be initiated by the county board then there is no reason as to why these individuals cannot excel at minor level on a national stage. A special mention must also go to Coolderry who played there part in what was an absorbing county final. In particular William Malone in goals,Conor Molloy at centre back, and Christopher Maloney at number 11 can be very proud of their performances and will no doubt play there part in what has the makings of a very competitive Offaly minor team well capable of having a say in the All Ireland minor championship in the coming years. Congratulations to all involved.

[SearingDrive]

Just to say congratulations to Na Fianna U16 team and mentors, who won the Offaly title yesterday. I hope they will go on to win more honours in the years ahead.

[puzzled]

Congrats to all Concerned with Na Fianna super result and just goes to prove once again that hard work pays off eventually!