Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

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Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

Post by Hyper » Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:28 am

There is an ongoing working group investigating the age grades for underage at both county and club level. County is expected to stay at 17 and 20, the big issue is what the clubs are going to do.
There is going to be a vote on this at the county board meeting tonight. What are the people's views on this out there?

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Re: Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

Post by kingscounty » Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:13 pm

Leave as it is county level, it has served us well over the last 3-4 years in both codes, club level probably needs probing as to whether clubs have enough numbers if it chooses one over the other.

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Re: Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

Post by uibhfhaili72 » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:22 am

What was the outcome if the meeting last night ?

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Re: Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

Post by Hyper » Wed Nov 02, 2022 5:31 pm

I believe there wasn't even a vote, leaving as is

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Re: Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

Post by FJB » Tue Nov 08, 2022 2:51 pm

I'm glad we are staying as is. It's the best of a bad set of choices.

Westmeath apparently are voting to raise minor age to under 18 and decouple minor from adult meaning you will have 18 and 19 year olds at the start of a year who have never played adult hurling or football.

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Re: Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

Post by Onionbag » Wed Nov 09, 2022 10:03 pm

I think the u 18 is the way we should go too

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Re: Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

Post by jimbob17 » Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:42 am

I would agree that there should be U18 club competition and even cut off U18's playing adult club level bar U20 or U21.

The reason that the U17 came in was to cut U17s from adult level as they knew they would get that over the line. Moving co minor to U17 was hugely helpful for leaving certs from what I am told and this has helped in this way. However, at club level, the last meaningful underage competition is at U17 now which is far too young. I think they should go U14, U16 and U18 at club level with no U18s playing adult. Let there be blitz days of 15 a side for U13's like they do at county level as a bridge from go games with maybe a cup also at end of year. For lads who are good enough at U13, they can play league and championship at u14 too.

If you think back, how many lads at U18 were really ready for adult level at U18? We have put the last proper age grade at U17 which I think was too drastic a measure and loads of lads are now lost between U17 and adult level now as a result.

We should also go back to an U21 at club level on a knockout basis and leave the co levels at U17 and U20 with lads not allowed to play co senior until they are over 20. Lots of lads only develop physical strength at 20 or 21 and cutting proper underage competition at U17 is doing more harm than good.
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Re: Proposed change to age grades at both county and club level

Post by FJB » Thu Nov 10, 2022 11:07 am

jimbob17 wrote:
Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:42 am
I would agree that there should be U18 club competition and even cut off U18's playing adult club level bar U20 or U21.
Most small clubs are depending on a few 18 year olds coming though each year to bolster their numbers at adult level. If you tell a lad turning 18 in January/February in a particular year, no, sorry you can't play adult until you're 19, he'll be off playing something else or maybe give it up altogether.

And don't get me started about the number of games offered at minor level.

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