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Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:46 pm
by Kevin
Welcome and best of luck to Stephen Wallace.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:07 pm
by bracknaghboy
Unless overly familiar with Kerry football the average Offaly supporter has little to on here. However, from what I can make of it it appears a solid appointment.
They know their football in Kerry and would not have him let near that junior job unless they thought he had potential. All Ireland intermediate club winner in 2015 and 2 junior All Ireland's in 2015 and 2016 are at least showing of a fella who has been around winning teams.
That Tralee IT had him last year further shows he is well thought of down there.
Let's be honest he is most likely a man with one eye on the Kerry senior job down the line so he clearly thinks he can make some progress with our boyos. In fact I'd would say he is taking more of a risk here than we are....he won't want to screw this up and with it his chances of a bigger job down the line.
That he favors open football if true is great....the problem with the totally negative managers is that they can't change, if anything they get more negative because they know nothing else. At least it might be watchable under this Wallace chap. We'll see.
An appointment to be optimistic about for now at least.

........now about them churches :D

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 9:38 am
by kaiserchief
the selectors he chooses or gets will play a key role in identifiying these so called roses.

i would like to see young selectors picked, with players identified from all ends of the county.

thinking of lads like cathal daly, padraig kelly, scott brady, peter brady, pascal kellghan, colm quinn..

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:57 am
by LooseCannon
kaiserchief wrote:the selectors he chooses or gets will play a key role in identifiying these so called roses.

i would like to see young selectors picked, with players identified from all ends of the county.

thinking of lads like cathal daly, padraig kelly, scott brady, peter brady, pascal kellghan, colm quinn..


He could have one or two of his own, though it would be ridiculous to not have people from Offaly with a bit of knowledge on the club scene.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:59 pm
by jimbob17
Little or nobody would have seen this appointment coming. I genuinely hope it works out well and that appropriate support re selectors support structures etc is given.

Wallace is a young enough coach with decent pedigree even if he hasn't been with senior teams. He has been working with high calibre individuals, many of whom won u21 and minor all Irelands. Tadhg Morley and some of seniors would have won junior all Irelands under him. Some might have reservations re his lack of exposure to big league stuff but I'd much rather this appointment than some of the journey man choices in the not too distant past.

What is of concern is that we are not attracting more experienced people both in hurling and football. If we had got jack o Connor or pat o shea people would've been delighted. That we got someone who has been doing work behind these lads is no shame and he could bring a lot more than people expect. You can be sure that with the nature of kerry football, no journey man manager would have been afforded the chance to work with their best young talent.

We have some decent talent in my opinion with many having improved physically under Flanagan. My only concern is who goes with him. They need to firstly have a good handle on local scene, have understanding of modern game and be progressive thinking. That points to younger men who have played within the last 15 years and realise what it takes and have a passion for the role.

All in all, I'd be optimistic but it totally depends on who he can get or who is provided by county board to go with him.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:46 pm
by biffinbanner
its a bit strange really.were getting in a manager that prob will need directions to get to tullamore and o connor park.and if he had to name 5 offaly players would prob struggle. he replaces a well regarded offaly man with a lifetimes experience of playing and managing in the county, who had zero luck in his time at the helm. best of luck to him..he will need it

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2017 11:15 pm
by LooseCannon
biffinbanner wrote:its a bit strange really.were getting in a manager that prob will need directions to get to tullamore and o connor park.and if he had to name 5 offaly players would prob struggle. he replaces a well regarded offaly man with a lifetimes experience of playing and managing in the county, who had zero luck in his time at the helm. best of luck to him..he will need it

If there's progress made, I couldn't care less if he has to come from Timbuktu.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:28 pm
by SearingDrive
biffinbanner wrote:its a bit strange really.were getting in a manager that prob will need directions to get to tullamore and o connor park.and if he had to name 5 offaly players would prob struggle. he replaces a well regarded offaly man with a lifetimes experience of playing and managing in the county, who had zero luck in his time at the helm. best of luck to him..he will need it

He can always use a sat nav. Much better to support him as manager. If he does the job, people will be happy.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 4:52 pm
by sam88885a
I was hoping when i heard on the radio that Offaly had got a Kerry man to manager our footballers that it was Jack O Connor . That was never going to happen.
Its a long way to go to find a manager guess he must not heard what our county board is like to work with .
Slight worry is how poor Tralee IT preformed when he managed them and he seems to have no experence managing senior players even at club level .
Time will tell he is there now ,we have to give him a chance .

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:18 pm
by LooseCannon
sam88885a wrote:I was hoping when i heard on the radio that Offaly had got a Kerry man to manager our footballers that it was Jack O Connor . That was never going to happen.
Its a long way to go to find a manager guess he must not heard what our county board is like to work with .
Slight worry is how poor Tralee IT preformed when he managed them and he seems to have no experence managing senior players even at club level .
Time will tell he is there now ,we have to give him a chance .


To be fair, expecting IT Tralee to do anything major in the Sigurson Cup; well that's like expecting Clonmore Harps to compete for senior championships.(No disrespect meant towards Clonmore)

He won an all Ireland intermediate with Ardfert.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 10:00 am
by True Red
To be fair, expecting IT Tralee to do anything major in the Sigurson Cup; well that's like expecting Clonmore Harps to compete for senior championships.(No disrespect meant towards Clonmore)


a fatwa will be declared on your head by the Ayatollahs of Clonmore!!!!!

Run for cover!!! :D :D :D

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 7:14 pm
by LooseCannon
True Red wrote:
To be fair, expecting IT Tralee to do anything major in the Sigurson Cup; well that's like expecting Clonmore Harps to compete for senior championships.(No disrespect meant towards Clonmore)


a fatwa will be declared on your head by the Ayatollahs of Clonmore!!!!!

Run for cover!!! :D :D :D


Seriously though, fair play to them for fielding a team. I don't know of their numbers, but I can't imagine them having a big area to pick from.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:01 pm
by frankthetank
LooseCannon wrote:
sam88885a wrote:I was hoping when i heard on the radio that Offaly had got a Kerry man to manager our footballers that it was Jack O Connor . That was never going to happen.
Its a long way to go to find a manager guess he must not heard what our county board is like to work with .
Slight worry is how poor Tralee IT preformed when he managed them and he seems to have no experence managing senior players even at club level .
Time will tell he is there now ,we have to give him a chance .


To be fair, expecting IT Tralee to do anything major in the Sigurson Cup; well that's like expecting Clonmore Harps to compete for senior championships.(No disrespect meant towards Clonmore)

He won an all Ireland intermediate with Ardfert.


Hmmm, Tralee IT won 3 Sigerson Cups in a row in the late 90's.

They aren't exactly third level football paupers.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:15 pm
by LooseCannon
frankthetank wrote:
LooseCannon wrote:
sam88885a wrote:I was hoping when i heard on the radio that Offaly had got a Kerry man to manager our footballers that it was Jack O Connor . That was never going to happen.
Its a long way to go to find a manager guess he must not heard what our county board is like to work with .
Slight worry is how poor Tralee IT preformed when he managed them and he seems to have no experence managing senior players even at club level .
Time will tell he is there now ,we have to give him a chance .


To be fair, expecting IT Tralee to do anything major in the Sigurson Cup; well that's like expecting Clonmore Harps to compete for senior championships.(No disrespect meant towards Clonmore)

He won an all Ireland intermediate with Ardfert.


Hmmm, Tralee IT won 3 Sigerson Cups in a row in the late 90's.

They aren't exactly third level football paupers.


I know that. But back then they'd a higher standard of player. Nowadays there is over-emphasis on universities as the only way to go with regard to third level. ITs don't have the pull factors they once had due to the point above. It would be interesting to see what third level institute that Kerry footballers attended. I'd predict that most went to UCC or Mary I.
Also college courses would be a factor in this.
Just my opinion.

Re: New Managers for 2018

PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 10:28 pm
by LooseCannon
Kevin Martin???
https://www.google.ie/amp/www.irishmirr ... 262912.amp

Any other names heard??
From the sound of Tommy Byrne's interview, it'll be an Offaly man.
https://m.soundcloud.com/midlandssport/ ... ger-search