kingscounty wrote:How do all the people feel now that never blamed the county board? Any time on here over the past number of years anyone said anything about the county board some responded by saying sure it's not county board fault their only volunteers, ' if it's so bad why don't you go on the board and give it a go' !! How in the name of god would you even get near it with the dominating way its run over there. Listen to Liam Hogan interview and go to the 39th minute, in the words of Liam Hogan himself " Tommy Byrne is a disaster " !!!!!! Not only as chairman but he was Secretary when the plan was first drawn up and it was left to gather dust. Telling Hogan that he can't buy fruit for the team from his own money, that the drop off in interest from clubs in the south for workshops when county board were involved was huge. I'm not saying that Hogans ideas were going to set the world on fire , but at least it seemed to have direction and structure that in 10 years time we might actually be competitive again. It's that bad now that we need someone to draw up a plan for us as to how we run a county board let alone our games development.
Lone Shark wrote:kingscounty wrote:How do all the people feel now that never blamed the county board? Any time on here over the past number of years anyone said anything about the county board some responded by saying sure it's not county board fault their only volunteers, ' if it's so bad why don't you go on the board and give it a go' !! How in the name of god would you even get near it with the dominating way its run over there. Listen to Liam Hogan interview and go to the 39th minute, in the words of Liam Hogan himself " Tommy Byrne is a disaster " !!!!!! Not only as chairman but he was Secretary when the plan was first drawn up and it was left to gather dust. Telling Hogan that he can't buy fruit for the team from his own money, that the drop off in interest from clubs in the south for workshops when county board were involved was huge. I'm not saying that Hogans ideas were going to set the world on fire , but at least it seemed to have direction and structure that in 10 years time we might actually be competitive again. It's that bad now that we need someone to draw up a plan for us as to how we run a county board let alone our games development.
Speaking as somebody who often gets accused of standing by the County Board through thick and thin, just to be clear, I don't think anyone is arguing that the CB don't have a huge amount to answer for. Liam Hogan is a man who put a huge amount of time, effort and energy into driving this project and he is stating quite clearly that he feels that they were actively obstructed at every turn. That of course is a huge issue, and one that I would be fascinated to hear, and report, on how the clubs react at tonight's meeting.
Except I can't, because it's held in camera, which I find very disappointing.
I personally believe that there should be the closest thing possible to a tribunal on all this, because otherwise there is simply no way that the ordinary club members will ever learn the truth about what actually happened here - and if we don't learn our history, we are doomed to repeat it.
However I am equally frustrated with this constant talk of how people expect the key people at the top table in the county board to step down with no evidence whatsoever that anyone would come forward to fill the roles instead. I'm not even saying that there is a danger that unproven, insufficiently skilled people would step forward - I'm saying that there is clear evidence to suggest that no-one at all would, and that we'd cease to function in no time. This idea that there are good people lurking in secret, waiting for a free pass to power, drives me potty. I have no idea who these people are, and yet everybody keeps talking as if there are countless folk ready and willing to step up.
Let's be clear here - there will never be a situation where an individual in this county will be politely asked to accept the role of chairperson, with complete free rein to run the show as they see fit. That's not how any democracy works, and certainly not in Offaly GAA, where the ultimate power lies with the clubs of the county. That the clubs have failed in their duty to wield that power correctly is something that should weigh on the conscience of everyone who pays their membership to any one of our 40-odd clubs, since my experience is that if you take an active role in your club and demonstrate that you're acting out of good conscience and willing to put in a bit of effort, it's not hard to get your views heard. People will respect you, and that will consider what you have to say.
On this board, and indeed all over Offaly if the texts and calls I've gotten are anything to go by, are people who are hugely upset by what's going on. And I don't blame them - so am I. However can anyone on here honestly say that they've even taken the very basic step of going to a club meeting, getting involved at that level, and then spoken out about what's going on with the Offaly county board and asked for their club to take a stand?
I'm not being facetious - I'm asking that question - have you, and how did it go? Or if not, what exactly did you do, other than complain?
Truesupporter wrote:This blame game HAS TO BE STOPPED Blame has to be shared by EVERYONE here:
1.The County Board Officers;
2. The Delegates to County Board meetings;
3. The clubs of County Offaly who ELECTED the current chairman by a good majority vote last December, (including many of the south Offaly clubs!);
4. The people who have not put themselves forward over the last number of years for election as County Board Officers.
The current chairman even said at County Convention that he had not done a good job the last time and asked for another chance, which some clubs willingly gave.
Liam Hogan's interview yesterday had many valid points but I got fed up with the number of times he referenced North Offaly and South Offaly and said about poisonous relationships ( See point 3 above). When that committee was originally set up it was said at a CB meeting, by a CB Officer that the best thing about it was that the people on it, under Diarmuid Healy's wing, were all from south Offaly, where they know about hurling. Again this attitude of a north/south divide is not relevant so before the county goes into civil war between the so-called North and South. It shouldn't matter where you are from in our small county, if you can hurl you should be valued.I would hate to see if we had a big county, we would have to accommodate East and West also!!!!!!
It was said over 5 years ago at a County Board meeting that if something was not done immediately to halt the decline in u-age structures we would be heading into Christy Ring territory by 2018 and the delegates were up in arms, with some people looking for heads on plates of the person that said it. Sadly we are now facing that scenario.
SO ALL SHOULDERSTO THE WHEEL FROM HERE ON IN AND LET'S GET HURLING GOING AGAIN IN OFFALY
private joker wrote:Sam88885a, are you serious??? Stay quite unless you have something positive to say??? What kind of crap is that.? Liam Hogan said it out straight. He kept quite for best part of a year. Your county board are a joke. The acceptance of what's going from the club's in offaly is hard to fathom. Do ye even care?
And What he said about the guys who were with the development squads, G Maher etc, in any top tier county, Tipperary, Galway, Kk , Waterford, Cork, limerick, Dublin, when your asked to fill out a review and attend a debrief, you do as your asked or your out, regardless of what you may or may not have achieved on the field.
Time to wake up.
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