Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby Plain of the Herbs » Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:01 pm

We were chatting the other night about the 23 years St Rynagh's had waited for their 17th Senior championship win, and how alot of good hurlers had ended their careers without the reward of a SHC medal. Many of them played Senior for Offaly, while I'd say most of them played Minor and/or U21 for their county. Here's a St Rynagh's team made up of players who didn't win a Senior championship during that time.

Mark Healy;
Adrian Clancy, Fergus Shortt, Ray Devery;
Shane Horan, Cathal Horan, Pat McIntyre;
Nigel Woods, Darragh Kelly;
Diarmuid Horan, Paudie Mulhare, Declan Tanner;
Kevin Kelly, John Ryan, Gary O'Connor.

Has anyone else any suggestions?
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby kaiserchief » Wed Nov 02, 2016 9:03 am

Robert Ryland
Declan Cordial
Kevin Duffy
Tiernan Martin
Enda Egan
Cirain Flannery
James Corrigan
Cirain Butler, was he a sub in the final??
Stephen Clancy
Gary Healy
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby Ned Kelly » Wed Nov 02, 2016 3:00 pm

Would like to be a fly on the wall for that chat POTH :lol:
It may also be possible to put a team together of exiles that have played senior for Rynaghs who have last played for a club other than St.Rynaghs & are still fit to play the game. Currently playing*

1. Gary Healy* - Clonkill & Westmeath
2. Ronan Devery - ??? Darwin Shamrocks, Australia
3. Ciaran Flannery* - Sarsfields, Perth - Australia
4. Tiernan Martin* - Harry Bolands, Chicago - USA
5. Michael Lyons* - Pearse Og, Dundalk & Louth
6. Fergus Shortt* - Sarsfields, Perth - Australia
7. Robert Ryland* - St Oliver Plunketts Mullingar, Westmeath
8. Jason Whelehan* - Sarsfields, Perth - Australia
9. Conor Duffy* - Sarsfields, Perth - Australia
10. Diarmaid Horan* - Harry Bolands, Chicago - USA
11. Nigel Woods* - Belmont, Offaly
12. Stephen Clancy* - Fullen Gaels, Manchester - England
13. Kevin Kelly - ??? Sarsfields, Perth - Australia
14. John "Wog" Ryan - ??? London, England
15. Declan Cordial - Sarsfields, Perth - Australia

16. Pat McIntyre - ???

All under 35 bar Nigel Woods who is still hurling Junior for Belmont.
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby joe bloggs » Wed Nov 02, 2016 8:49 pm

Padraig Kenny, Sarsfields Perth.
Simon Og Lyons although on this years panel departed for London in August. Not transferred yet, but effectively out of the running too.
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby private joker » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:53 am

Just wondering, why do the offaly intermediate club champions hurl Junior leinster? Very unfair I feel on out and out Junior teams. Clodiagh gaels are playing Rathoath and from my experience playing Rathoath this could be a massive win for Clodiagh gaels. Last year was the same with lusmagh beating arklow by a huge scoreline. Also, and maybe ita a mis print but I see the Mayo and roscommon champions play intermediate. Then so should the offaly champions. I know the Mayo and roscommon teamss are Senior in their counties but that standard would be very poor.
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby joe bloggs » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:40 pm

They play junior for the same reason the Mayo and Roscommon champions play intermediate. The standard is not good enough.
Look at the beating lusmagh took last year from the kilkenny junior champions. If we had the same structure as football then we could let them off to play intermediate, sending our #9 ranked club team instead of #13
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby llkj » Thu Nov 03, 2016 2:42 pm

private joker wrote:Just wondering, why do the offaly intermediate club champions hurl Junior leinster? Very unfair I feel on out and out Junior teams. Clodiagh gaels are playing Rathoath and from my experience playing Rathoath this could be a massive win for Clodiagh gaels. Last year was the same with lusmagh beating arklow by a huge scoreline. Also, and maybe ita a mis print but I see the Mayo and roscommon champions play intermediate. Then so should the offaly champions. I know the Mayo and roscommon teamss are Senior in their counties but that standard would be very poor.


Don't the Offaly team have to win the All-Ireland at their level in order for them to move up to the next level?
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby Lone Shark » Thu Nov 03, 2016 3:19 pm

llkj wrote:
private joker wrote:Just wondering, why do the offaly intermediate club champions hurl Junior leinster? Very unfair I feel on out and out Junior teams. Clodiagh gaels are playing Rathoath and from my experience playing Rathoath this could be a massive win for Clodiagh gaels. Last year was the same with lusmagh beating arklow by a huge scoreline. Also, and maybe ita a mis print but I see the Mayo and roscommon champions play intermediate. Then so should the offaly champions. I know the Mayo and roscommon teamss are Senior in their counties but that standard would be very poor.


Don't the Offaly team have to win the All-Ireland at their level in order for them to move up to the next level?


Yes. That said, I think Creggan Kickhams are the only team that wasn't a proper "junior" club ever to do so - so the current system appears to be working okay in that regard. The Intermediate and Junior winners from the respective counties appear to be competing at the right level.
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby private joker » Thu Nov 03, 2016 8:04 pm

Thanks for that. Did not realise you had to win the grade to go up a grade. So if clodagh gaels when the all Ireland, offaly play intermediate the following year?,
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby Lone Shark » Fri Nov 04, 2016 2:10 pm

private joker wrote:Thanks for that. Did not realise you had to win the grade to go up a grade. So if clodagh gaels when the all Ireland, offaly play intermediate the following year?,


That's it exactly.
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby townman » Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:26 pm

Oulart 2-13 Rynaghs 0-9 in fairness Missing Gary Connelly, Stephen Quirke, and Camon, never going to get a win down there without their fullhand.
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby frankthetank » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:21 pm

10 points was about a fair refection in the gulf in class between the sides. Oulart's two goals were evidence of that.
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby sam88885a » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:42 pm

townman wrote:Oulart 2-13 Rynaghs 0-9 in fairness Missing Gary Connelly, Stephen Quirke, and Camon, never going to get a win down there without their fullhand.

Stephen Wynne was missing too but to be fair Oulart were missing N Kirwin And K Rosinger .
Poor game St Rynagh were out classed ,simply didn't have scoring forwards with G Connelly S Quirke and S Wynne missing but not having S Wynne for free today was massive .
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby townman » Sun Nov 06, 2016 6:55 pm

i think Stephen Quirke was a big lost Rynaghs had no one to get the ball and go at Oularts backs like he does. also Gary Connelly was missed around the middle but as you say oulart were missing Rossiter who is a top player. anyway Rynaghs can learn from this and if they get another crack at it in 2017 they can do better, remember Coolderry losing to the westmeath winners clonkill i think one year but came back the next to win the leinster.
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Re: Offaly Club Hurling C'ship 2016

Postby timber » Sun Nov 06, 2016 11:17 pm

Rynaghs were shocking poor today. Some of their striking was junior standard. The short game they play is both frustrating and horrible to watch.

Tthought a few of the players heads was not in it today and didnt go full blooded at oulart who are pretty flakey when its put to them.

Its another sign of where hurling standards are at in the county.
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