Bord na Mona man wrote:The 3rd and final seat is in the balance. Whoever loses will demand a recount!
first_touch wrote:Is this a secret ballot![]()
Bord na Mona man wrote:The people of uibhfhaili.com said Leahy, Cowen and Foley.
The people of Offaly and North Tipp said Cowen, Corcorcan-Kennedy and Nolan.
ah lethimoutwithit wrote:On a serious note on this what are the thoughts that no TD elected from North Offaly. Our brethren in the South have clearly said enough is enough over the whole electing to play hurling in OCP.
Negotiations went on long into the early hours to convince the North Tippers that they had indeed more in common with the Biffs in the South than those brigands in the North of the Faithful?
Thus we booked all sorts of trends and elected 2 fine filly's!! And MCK.....
Anyway..disappointed to see John Leahy lose out, reckon Nolan happened to be the right place at the right time, (Kileavy or Reilly from Daingean could have had a good chance had the gender quota shite not scuppered their chances).
Liam Quinn on the other hand should get over the line. Dyed in the wool FG transfers from Flanagan will probably go to him, and if the people of North Offaly who have been hammered with increased fuel costs, negative equity and unemployment more than most, don't turn to an opposition candidate from their heartland, then you'd really have to wonder at the psychology of it all. Seriously, they've sided with FF for the last couple of elections and it has got them nowhere, now surely they will look at this election as a chance to get represented again.
club125 wrote:I would suggest there is a seat for FF or SF in the North of the County. An Independent will not get the votes required from outside the Municipal District.
(1) Turnout in that area continues to be far below the rest of the county. For whatever reason, people don't bother voting in the same numbers down there. I'm trying to find the full details of the election (broken down by polling station) online, and I haven't managed yet - however I have seen some news outlets reporting turnout as low as 30% in some parts of Edenderry. That's obviously a huge factor.
(3) Here's the real issue however - since Ger Connolly lost out in the race for the 1992 election, the FF ticket in Offaly has been the same - B Cowen, + AN Other. Leaving aside the fact that there were some disastrous AN Others in that time, with one obvious example leaping off the page, North Offaly people have continually weighed in behind that candidate regardless. And since Offaly doesn't have two FF quotas in it, it means that B Cowen gets elected and the other misses out, every time. After all, if the same Killally couldn't get in behind Brian Cowen in 2007, there's just no hope for anyone.
Lone Shark wrote:Similarly now, there was no way that FF were going to win two seats with 36% of the vote, so for all Ivan Yates' prognosticating in favour of it on Newstalk, Fitzpatrick was never in with any real chance.
Plain of the Herbs wrote:On 36%, logically two FF seats shouldn't have been on at all, but the actuality is that Fitzpatrick came within 170 votes of a seat, and any kind of FF vote management would have carried the day. Granted Fitzpatrick was just 42 votes ahead of John Foley at the time of the latter's elimination. The swings and arrows of the single transferable vote.
And quite a broad similarity between Offaly's Local election results and GE16's results.Lone Shark wrote:Similarly now, there was no way that FF were going to win two seats with 36% of the vote, so for all Ivan Yates' prognosticating in favour of it on Newstalk, Fitzpatrick was never in with any real chance.
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