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Lone Shark did you manage to divert Phoenix’s point about the National Pension reserve into a long metaphor about banks as betting shops ? And there you were accusing poor Magpie of twisting and distortion. Actually I would have to weigh in behind Phoenix on this one. The last few months have pushed...

I think we're safe enough regardless of whether the allegations are proven or not. Nobody ever gets sent to jail in Ireland for million-euro white-collar theft.

You have to do something really serious to face jail, like stealing a handbag or non-payment of bin charges...........